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notes:
This is the once-rare second set of the gig that was
discussed
for long.
Once I got this I checked it with all the available recordings of the 74 tour
and it sounds as to be genuine, or rather the performance on this CD doesn't
coincide with any other one available...
Just the second set is available
from this source and the first set wasn't released, that always circulated from the LP
only so far, which is
weird... why not to release the whole recording from the
same source? Is the LP from the same recorder as this second
set?
Also the source/lineage is
still an open question, I don't know if it's really from the masters (if it is,
where's the 1stSet?..again...).
Matter of fact this recording circulated
on tape before but it seems as it was "ignored" and also was labeled wrong.
I lately found some tapes being
from this date but being labeled as "November 8, The Odeon, Newcastle-upon-Tyne".
The presence of the Sax on Echoes excludes the
possibility of that being the right date of this recording, but it opens some
doubts about the reilability of the master-source of this to me. The tape has
the same contents as this claimed master and even being an unknonw generation
copy it has not an inferior SQ than this claimed master ...
Also, this claimed master
seems to have been someway processed, brightness of the sound is about the same as the other version I got
before (the one with the LP-sourced 1st set)
but this seems a bit more 'clean' and sounds as
it was a bit dehissed leaving the high end untouched, so it actually sounds
a bit better, but the other 'hissy' versions I got
are a bit deeper in sound.
comments as they came with the files:
This is the ultra-rare second set and encore of the Stoke-On-Trent 1974 show.
The first set is commonly available in LP and CDR titled "British Winter Tour
'74."
Excellent quality, very low generation, and a great 1974 performance. 'Great Gig
In The Sky' fades out
during the last verse and fades into the beginning of 'Money', possibly due to a
tape flip.
notes for
VERSION 2:
additional notes from the indexed version by buffalofloyd
Probably one of my favorite all time dates. I don't know why exactly but I just
really like it.
This runs at a little slower (more correct) speed than the common RoIO around
for this date just called "Brittish Winter Tour" (LP + cass[master or low]>cdr(?)>flac).
This RoIO combines the LP for the 1st set called ""Brittish Winter Tour '74"
plus a master or low gen tape for the 2nd set (DSotM + Echoes). The first
set of this date only circulates on LP so far, and the version on that
RoIO is not the best one. This tape here contains the 2nd set only (DSotM +
Echoes). The Great Gig fades out just like on the common RoIO and so does
Eclipse. Echoes on the common version starts out with some minor crackling
noise, here there is none of that. There is about a couple seconds more
audience at the very end of this tape. Other than that they are the same except
for sound
quality. This version sounds just a little darker than the common RoIO IMO. For
this date I still like that version the best. Still, this one is very
good. There is a supposed Master for this 2nd set which sounds worse than
the common RoIO. It could have aged badly or it's not really a Master.
Either way it's not as good.
I only cut out some silence and the studio thingy that was attached at the end
of this tape.
-buffalofloyd
notes as they
came with the files
Master Tapes -
Tape 1
I'll still post the odd radio show or two, as they turn up in the archives. But,
I think I'll gradually turn to a series of master reels that I happened to
discover. Each reel was transferred to DAT. Each DAT was digitally dumped to a
computer as a .wav file. The .wav files were converted to .flac and then to a
series of .rar files. I'll provide you with the descriptions, as written on the
original reels. These reels are from a very serious collector & are the sources
used for virtually every RoIO from these dates since. I asked a bunch of friends
to compare with other released versions of these shows. We found that these
versions are almost always slightly longer (more audience noice and longer
pauses between songs - the kinds of things that are cut for commercial RoIOs)
and have better audio spectra than other versions. In other words, even if you
already have these shows, you'll want this version. As suggested above, I have
done absolutely no editing, sound adjustments, or other manipulation.
DAT recorders can record in different sound quality levels. Again, you get
exactly the quality of the original DAT tape. This means better-than-CD for most
of them.
28/2/70 - 1' 25"
19/11/74 - DSOTM + Echoes (1' 18")
I should also probably tell you that there's a little bonus weirdness on the
very, very end of this one... But, I honestly have no idea what it is. If you
should happen to know, please leave a comment!!
notes about the Reeling Project:
Reeling In Pink Floyd - general information Message List
A little while ago, I received a remarkable offer - Would I be interested in
some Pink Floyd related audio material ? What I received was a box of DAT tapes
and CDs. Most of the material came to my friend from several of Europe's most
famous collectors back in the late 1980s / early 1990s. These are the sorts of
people who own the actual master reels of many of the more popular
RoIO recordings. These European collectors dubbed significant amounts of their
collections for my friend. But, as life has sped up and the years have grown
long, he just hasn't had much motivation to listen to any of them any more & was
hoping to find a way of sharing the material with others.
Happily enough, I happen to know someone with a professional DAT deck -
one with a digital output. B-) So, he transferred all of the DATs to .wav
files and then .flac-ed them. They're all *exactly* the same as the original
DAT
tapes - the same sampling rate, the same length, etc. Some are at 48 kHz,
which is actually better than CD quality (44.1 kHz). So, to make a reasonable
audio CD, you'd have to sample down to 44.1 kHz and cut into tracks.
Obviously, I thought it might be nice to compare these recordings to
previously circulating versions. I spread them around to a few friends with
large
collections. The general consensus was that the DATs tended to be slightly
longer (mostly more audience noise) and sound slightly to moderately better than
previous, highly circulated versions. But, to be completely fair, often
there weren't other versions to compare to (as was often the case with my
collection).
Also, I happen to own a master reel containing two concerts from the
middle 1980s. I had this professionally transferred relatively recently.
All of the material fits nicely on 7 DVDs.
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