setlist: Raving And Drooling / You Gotta Be Crazy / Shine On You Crazy Diamond (Parts I-V) / Have A Cigar / Shine On You Crazy Diamond (Parts VI-IX) / The Dark Side Of The Moon / Echoes

OK, it's passed quite a long time since put up the headphones to check out this recording(s), finally I'm doing it again. If the first check was addressed to find out if these 2 recordings in circulation were really from the same date (and I stated they are, in spite of the fact they are around as being from 2 distinct different gigs) now I'm here to try solve the question if the recorder again.

So first of all, there are these 2 recordings having different contents and considered for long from 2 different dates (Philadelphia 75-6-12 and Philadelphia 75-6-13). They have some audience "comments" in common but much more ones are different so let's draw a conclusions. My Idea is that they are different recordings having JUST Echoes in common, which I can't say for sure is from rec.1 or rec.2

After solved the question of the dates and the recoders it would be nice to find out if the real date of both is 6-12 or 6-13, but this I can't really tell just listening to them. The most credited date is June 12 anyay, since most of the old fantapes were labeled that way.

here are some of the versions I checked for these 2 recorders in general circulation:

recorder 1: from unknown gen, around as "Philadelphia volume 1" (and many other titles too) and dated Philly 6-12. This is complete (not considering the "Echoes-matter") and decent sounding, I also transferred this nice tape

recorder 2: from unknown gen, around as "Philadelphia volume 2" (and many other titles too) and dated Philly 6-13. This is missing R&D and starts fading in on YGBC (again, not considering the "Echoes-matter"); sound quality is pretty poor but all is audible after all, the first recorder is better in SQ. The version I have is poorly edited too and has some noise in the back, as the tape wasn't virgin, it gets worse and worse during the recording with also some "tzz-tzz" noise appearing at the end.

here are some points to distinguish the 2 recorders:

R&D

recorder 1: starts on the first notes of the song

recorder 2: the song is missing

YGBC

recorder 1: starts from the beginning; as soon as the song is over guys near to the taper claps and yell "woooo", then the recording cuts.

recorder 2: starts whith Dave singing (fading in); after Gilmour sings "You must have had a tough time" a guy clearly yells "wooooh" (not on the other recorder); as soon as the song is over guys near to the taper claps and one yells "woo-hoo" and soon after that a guy clearly tells another guy "what do you think?...".. and they go on talking.

SOYCD I-V

recorder 1: starts soon before Waters announces the song; while Waters talk about the "song from the next album" a guy yells in the back roughly "yeeeaahh" 2 times (this is on both recorders which were prolly not very far one another); right before Waters says "it's called Shine On You Crazy Diamon" a guy whistles clearly and soon after Waters says that a man clearly yells "yeah"

recorder 2: there are little tuneups at the beginning; after Waters says "it's called Shine On You Crazy Diamon" a man near to the taper yells "woo-hoo"

SOYCD IV-IX

recorder 1: on my version there's a little portion repeated into the song after about 2 minutes (change of tape side); when the song is over a man yells "woow" at leat 3 times, then the recording cuts (no greetings)

recorder 2: soon after Wright starts playing into the  song you can hear guys in the back talking, while the song is finishing a guy yells "wow-hoh" and then people claps, at the end of the song a guy yells "wooho ... wee" soon before Waters greets the audience.

STM /Breathe

recorder 1: there's a firework exploding near to the beginning of the heartbeats (STM here is much longer than on the other version)

recorder 2: when Breathe starts you can hear a guy near to the taper saying "... take it"

OTR/Time/Breathe(R)

recorder 1: there's a lady yelling "woooh" loud in the back when OTR starts, this is audible in the other recorder too. On Time, soon betore the singing starts a guy yells "yeeah" in the back.

recorder 2: On Time, soon after the singing starts on "taking away" a guy yells "weeeh"; on Breathe(R) soon after Gilmour sings "I like to be here" a man yells "waaah"

Money

recorder 1: /

recorder 2: soon before the bass starts playing a guy yells "yeah" in the back twice very clearly

U&T

recorder 1: few seconds after the song starts a man yells in the back "waaha-hoo" very clearly

recorder 2: /

Eclipse

recorder 1: people yells and whistles at the end, during the bells, then the recording cuts before the very end

recorder 2: the song is complete and there are the greetings at the end

Echoes

recorder 1: when Waters announces the song, after "Thank You for coming, this is called Echoes" a lady and a man yells loud, same as on recorder 2!.. but here Echoes is complete, in the other recording is stops soon before the very end

recorder 2: when Waters announces the song, after "Thank You For Coming, this is called Echoes" a lady and a man yells loud, yup, I believe Echoes is really the same on both the recordings (same taper I mean) but I'm not sure if it's genuine from recorder 1 or 2! ... again, the Philly recordings are destined to be always patched as it seems! It happened also for Philly 71, 77 even maybe for Philly 87! aw!