page updated on: September 21
2004
NO
IMAGE
date/venue:
1970 September 27 - Fillmore East, New York City, New York (early show) +
01. Astronomy Domine [11:10]
notes:
mmm well, this is really gonna be a strange date to check.
title: -
disc/s:
2 (1 overburning)
release:
T (it's not an official T release) **
1971 November 15 - Carnegie Hall, Manhattan, New York City, New York, USA (????)
source:
audience /
cass[low]>wav>shn
tot length:
80:53 (tot)
overall:
EX
tracklist:
02. Green is the Colour [3:38]
03. Careful With That Axe, Eugene [10:16]
04. One Of These Days [9:15] (71.11.15???)
05.
Atom Heart Mother
[5:32] - fragment (71.11.15???)
06. Set The Controls For The Heart Of The Sun [5:47] - second half (starts from
where on other version it gets cut)
07. Fat Old Sun [12:00]
08. Echoes [23:12] [1975.06.15 - rec2]
At now I can just say that the supposed Fillmore East 70 part of this release is
better sounding that whatever I listened before, same for the OOTD track (much
longer and better than the one I had before)
This was usually around as "1971 November 15 - Carnegie Hall, Manhattan, New
York City" but always turned out to be the same as "1970 September 27 - Fillmore
East, New York City" (except the OoTD track); This time the tape was not
labelled as 1971 November 15, nor as 1970 September 27 but even as Fillmore East
'72. And here we have also an Echoes track at the end.
OOTD was not performed at the Fillmore East that night, OoTD was never performed
before the late 71 actually. After a quite accurate check I found that this
OoTD performance doesn't match any other recording having OoTD in circiulation,
for this reason I feel to leave it as it's supposed to come from: 71-11-15. I
have no means to confirm that's the right date anyway, what I'm sure about is
that it's a '71 or '72 performance (excluding the last 72 dates) and that it is
from a concert performed in the U.S., since the taper says something at the
beginning of the song, exactly "Lucifer Sam", and he says that with an American
accent.
about AHM I doubt it's from the FE 70-09-27 show as well cuse there it was
performed with orchestra and choir, and there's no orchestra or choir in this
fragment, so I feel to label it as Carnegie Hall 71-11-15 too.
There's the remote possibility that the whole Fillmore East '70 date is a fake
and that it's all from a 71 show (right 71-11-15?), but it's doubtful cause GITC
was not performed after the August of 71 according to the archives (what a mess!)
... there’s no way to prove anything in few words, can be from Fillmore East 70
excluding OoTD and AHM or can be from Carnegie Hall 71 excluding GITC? who'll
know!
about Echoes, it is from Roosevelt Stadium, Jersey City June 15 1975 (different
recorder than the complete version in circulation). It recognizable when the
taper says "wooo" on the mic at the end of the song, before Waters greets the
audience; whereas in the 'common version' there are guys yelling "sit down, sit
down" right at the end of the song)
for details on the 2 recorders have a look here
T notes:
These SHN files were made from a cassette tape that I got in trade in about 1977
Two of the songs don't belong to this date, they are: One Of These Days and
Echoes. I don't know to what date they belong.
Also I believe at least one song is missing from that nights set, A Saucerful of
Secrets. Songs may also be in the wrong order. I also have the interview
conducted the next day by a student.
I'm not going to release this but if you can get it all together and want to
release it I just ask that you mention where you got it. If you want the
interview too let me know.
T________
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